we know that president obama is thinking about this. we know that leaders in other countries are as well. but it's an issue of broad importance importance to the public. everybody should be concerned about the balance being struck between protecting safety on the one hand which with is obviously important. and protecting our fundamental freedoms and rights to privacy as well. so as important as private discussions are, this is too important to leave to private discussion alone. >> and i also see that the companies are trying to expand your own encryption to make it harder for outsiders to come in and scoop up or take what you have. tell us a little bit about that. >> certainly we realized as an industry that there are more governments. this is not confined to any single country, that are seeking to hack their way or tap into cables and collect data so here at microsoft but really across our industry, companies increasingly are taking steps. increasing encryption that puts everything in code when it's going across the cable, for example,